tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-185498732024-03-23T13:26:49.922-05:00The Dirty PapistI don't know how to discern what God wants for my life, so I just pray to be made a great saint, and I offer everything up I can.Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.comBlogger449125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-52188778851319184452023-01-29T12:35:00.001-06:002023-01-29T12:35:38.552-06:00So, three months after her husband's assault, it comes out that Nancy Pelosi wants her house exorcised.<p> I'm not sure if that's exactly how she put it, but that's how it was stated in the report I heard.</p><p>On the one hand, this is good. Everyone should want their house blessed.</p><p>On the second hand, asking for an "exorcism" to drive out post-traumatic "negative energy" one might feel after what looks like a mundane home invasion by a violently mentally ill acquaintance--you know, that normal phenomenon of re-experiencing the feelings surrounding a painful event when reflecting on (or being "triggered" by) it--smells like one of those PR-tweaking performances that high profile people enact after realizing they've done something too alienating but are in truth too alien to hoi polloi, to the degree where their attempts to bridge the gap and garner empathy push people farther away. </p><p>Think of when Mark Zuckerberg had to testify before Congress, and all the memes about him being a lizard person in disguise and trying to drink water not to calm himself but to appear more mammalian, which is a very non-mammalian way to go about it. Or when a parent tries to be cool in front of their tween children, not realizing that whether or not they were cool themselves when they were younger, it's not something you can achieve by trying.</p><p>So it seems like just another part of her flawed campaign to appear a devoted Catholic, like all her "I love receiving communion like you other Catholics and I appreciate all the nuns at school who told me I could do that while still promoting abortion; what do 915 cannons have to do with anything?" talk. She might be trying to fool voters or maybe just herself, like with her other publicity stunts such as that public act of repentance for being white she participated in during the Floyd riots where she wore "African colors" and went down on one knee but couldn't get back up.</p><p>But back on the first hand again, this could be the camel's nose in the tent of grace in her life. Maybe she really was shaken up a bit and is reaching out in the only way she knows how, maybe all the prayers for her conversion and the end to her scandalous politicking are starting to pay off.</p><p>Let's hope and pray for more of that.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-14624620132624030112023-01-23T11:01:00.000-06:002023-01-23T11:01:14.214-06:00A question for anyone who has contemplated the notion that Benedict XVI retained some papal features after he resigned<p> I'm not talking only to people who maintained this theory. I'm just asking anyone who has thought about it enough to understand the contention. For the record, this is a hypothetical question, it's been interesting to consider these past several years, but I both lean away from the notion and decline to take a stand--it seems to violate the intent of the Petrine office but it's a matter for experts to explain why my hunch would be right or wrong.</p><p>But I'm asking all of you anyway, just for curiosity. Now that B16 has died, does his <i>munus</i> automatically devolve back to Francis? Or does Francis not inherit it at all, since the bifurcation had already happened before his election? If that's the case, would he just be pope without <i>munus</i> and only his successor would resume the power? But what if Francis resigned too? If he doesn't have it, he can't also give it up.</p><p>I know this is just a rabbit hole. It's an interesting idea to play with. But that should also tell us that maybe it's too bad of an idea to be true.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-62876245506627542312022-09-01T16:34:00.001-05:002022-09-01T16:34:00.146-05:00Revisiting a little clarity on state secrets and document classification<p>So the Left and its RINO allies--but I repeat myself--are making hay with the appearance of a double standard regarding Trump's and Hillary's handling of classified documents.</p><p>What they try to convince you of is false. </p><p>I will only pass over briefly their contentions about double standards at all, since their predilection for hiding behind them is self-evident.</p><p>There are obvious differences between Hillary's situation and The Donald's. The chief of which is that Trump was the president when he took those documents home. As president, he had full authority to declassify anything he wanted at any time for any [or no] reason. Being chief executive, he was beholden to no one regarding what needed to remain a state secret and what did not. I've read, even, that the mere act of him taking classified documents out of secure locations constituted a <i>de facto</i> act of declassification; perhaps a reader who can cite the relevant rules and regulations could elucidate this for us.</p><p>Hillary, meanwhile, never held a position that carried that level of authority. Instead, she set up a private mail server in her home so she could conduct state business and use her clout for personal gain beyond the eye of any entities in the DOJ who were not yet beholden to her. I've outlined elsewhere what kinds of violations this act constituted, but let me close with one last comparison:</p><p>Trump cooperated with the FBI regarding the sequestration and seizure of the documents in question at Mar-a-Lago. Hillary's staff, on the other hand, smashed their devices with hammers in the hope of preventing evidence of their wrongdoing (yes, wrongdoing; that is not the way you protect state secrets from federal investigators who might lack clearance) from coming to light.</p><p>Okay, one last comparison, and a rhetorical question: if they had anything serious on Trump, why did they wait a year and a half after he was out of office--until the end of summer before some uncertain midterm elections--to move on him? </p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-83298649145093091882022-08-29T16:32:00.002-05:002022-08-29T16:32:09.767-05:00In case I didn't emphasize this enough before, one of the problems with defining racism as depending on power rather than personal animus...<p> ...is that people who are bigots but have relatively little institutional power will still tend to do evil--which still harms other people, and society, and themselves.</p><p>Why is this less urgent of a problem than the prevalence of a decent, inclusive people who happen to have white or rich or educated parents?</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-34783853332802628552022-07-29T12:03:00.001-05:002022-07-29T12:03:00.157-05:00On the Kennedy case...been a big season for SCOTUS, hasn't it?The prayer decision is more important than it may first seem. It’s important not just as a restoration of the first amendment, but in that it represents one of the first recent instances of opposition to the Marxist paradigm—that is, all interpersonal interactions always take place between people with dissimilar amounts of power (elites need not be considered), and so the one with more always acts evilly when not actively subjecting himself to the will of the weak. Even if they outnumber and outvote him—that kind of exercise of power wouldn't count.
<p>What this case did was show that the weak need not fear the strong because the strong are not always malign nor even aggressive. This dovetails with the obvious outcomes of victim politics when promoted by people who, as the saying goes, make it harder for actual victims: which is to say, just because you claim to be or even are a victim doesn’t mean you’re right or entitled. </p><p>Just look at the dissenting opinion. There was fear expressed that this decision would "open the door to much more coercive prayer in our public schools," but coercion <i>against</i> prayer has been steadily rising until now. Congress isn't allowed to do either one. But it allegedly also "sets us further down a perilous path in forcing states to entangle themselves with religion." Look, that very same entanglement is what was undone here. Coach Kennedy was penalized for praying on his own after the game--off duty, that is, when he is no longer acting as an agent of the school. It's not reasonable to expect someone to be an on-duty representative of some organization 24/7, even if you can demand more from them in limited ways. </p><p>The First Amendment restricts Congress from impeding or promoting religion. Okay, a public school employee is an agent of the state, after a fashion. Can he stay silent and not intimidate students who don't share his faith? Yes, more or less, probably. But that contributes to a chilling effect on the free expression of religion by people who is share his faith, which is happening all over the West. And what about people of <i>other</i> faiths? Some will be heartened to see anything they recognize as religious, and be encouraged to express and share theirs. Others will be intimidated not for being irreligious but not fitting into Kennedy's brand. But if Kennedy accommodated them, what about the ones he's now leaving out? How can he be sensitive specifically to each of them--sectarian and nonsectarian--without running the risk of excluding any of them--nonsectarian or sectarian?</p><p>This is why Congress isn't supposed to meddle at all; why our government is minimalistic in the first place. Mostly it's best to leave the tolerating up to the individuals. Otherwise we end up with that scene in "Life of Brian" where the crowd Brian throws a shoe at is arguing about what the shoe means, only instead of a shoe it's civil rights.</p><p>Did some of his students feel forced to sit in, a la peer pressure? Apparently so. But unfortunately that's human nature--we're social animals. Student athletes get pressured to drink underage all the time, and while that's not reflected in the First Amendment, it's against much more specific laws, and that kind of behavior is often ignored until the star quarterback drives home drunk right over the head cheerleader. Did anyone approach the coach to say "hey, no offense but I'm not comfortable getting dragged into this; is this an expectation, or am I going to be all right on and off the field if I don't participate?" </p><p>I can see some kids not being comfortable even bringing it up. But none? And no parents?</p><p>I don't know all the details, but apparently the problem started when Kennedy's school district asked him to stop out of fear for litigation--another instance of "there isn't an issue, but there's fear of a possibility of an issue." Which smells more like a disgruntled school board member than a principal who has received some difficult phone calls from people who followed up with mail on fancy letterhead.</p><p>Actually it didn't even start there; Kennedy started praying on his own, and students started joining him. When he was asked to stop praying in the locker room and on the field, he did, but continued praying by himself after the game. Apparently that was too much.</p><p>Please. This is not some high-profile representative of a lofty organization abusing his power to tarnish the organization's reputation. This is a high school football coach. He's allowed to have a private life.</p><p>Even if people can see him having it. </p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-25321743535520655072022-07-17T12:00:00.000-05:002022-07-17T12:00:00.613-05:00A few final words on the Dobbs case, at least for now....For those of you complaining that this was the first crack in the wall protecting abortion rights and that it never should have gotten this far, well, this is the first crack, you're right about that--in a sense.<div>But you have to keep in mind that <i>Roe</i> was not a piece of legislation. It was a Supreme Court case we were told to consider to be law. Now it's back in the hands of the states, where legal questions of life and death are supposed to be handled.</div><div>This is a good thing for you. Now, it <i>is</i> a matter of legislation. Now any laws that get passed will have a more sound basis than <i>Roe</i> did. You'll lose some states, but you gain security in others. And all your threats and promises to leave your reddish communities that voted for Trump or against abortion or whatever the hot topic was, will now be easier for you to consummate.</div><div><br /></div><div>And for those of you who are demanding that SCOTUS be stripped of its "jurisdiction" to "rule over" abortion, let me enumerate a few of the ways in which that is stupid.</div><div><ol style="text-align: left;"><li>That's what the <i>Dobbs</i> case actually was about. Did you not read the decision, or any of the actual-news articles about it?</li><li>What do you think would happen when someone wanted to file a lawsuit against a pro-life law, and SCOTUS wasn't allowed to hear it?</li><li>SCOTUS's powers might not be clearly defined on all sides--I'm just saying for the sake of the argument, not as a legal scholar--but what do you think would a precedent of "there are certain civil, humanitarian, legal, and moral matters the Supreme Court can't weigh in on" in the way you're proposing, do to our country when other people try to apply that logic to <i>other</i> topics? What if someone challenged certain labor laws? Proposed mandatory servitude for immigrants? Moved to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment? Moved to repeal the Nineteenth Amendment, with the stipulation that women thereby would exempt from all forms of taxation? Sometimes convincing five justices instead of 51% of voters is an abuse of democracy--so don't talk to me about democratic crises--but it is also a necessary hedge against mob rule.</li><li>Maybe you're not as dumb as all this, but are playing to the crowd. That's the name of the game, okay, but do the people who are gullible and ignorant enough to believe you, tend to show up at the polls?</li></ol></div>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-14580704731871787062022-07-11T09:55:00.004-05:002022-07-11T09:55:52.771-05:00Posted to Reddit: "Department of Misinformation Paused over Free Speech Concerns"<p>Comment from a Redditor: "Progressives have been warning about 1984 for decades. It's republicans who try to bring them to life."</p><p>First, that's an interesting juxtaposition between the leftist movement and a specific political party. The DNC hasn't been in the business of equal civil rights since the 20th Century.</p><p>Second, it's the Democrat president Joe Biden who, after a contentious election, brought Minitru to life. Are you even <i>trying</i> to appear plausible to anyone but the people who already want to believe you?</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-91350917684553062952022-06-27T15:38:00.002-05:002022-06-27T15:38:23.235-05:00I'm confused...<p> ...by people who, bemoaning the recent <i>Dobbs</i> decision, try to draw parallels between that "no, the Burger Court did not justify its claim that abortion is implicit in the Bill of Rights) and other non-fascist facts about our country like a lack of universal health care, universal child care, government regulated time off, and so on. People who post such a laundry list and say it's proof that the people who don't want abortion or government control of health care and so on, are really just interested in "control."</p><p>Bish, who is in control under a regime of universal health care? Who is in control when child care and work benefits are managed by the federal government? When there is no monopoly on ownership of firearms (along side other means for committing violence, like riots and arson and vandalism, which we're now told is a necessary part of desperate democracy).</p><p>Do you even know what "control" <i>is?</i></p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-68962464650913223362022-06-23T14:19:00.001-05:002022-06-23T14:19:00.153-05:00Since it's pride month, here's something to reconsider.<p>According to the recent documentary "What is a Woman?" the average person undergoing transsexual medical treatments represents a $1.3 million payday to pharmaceutical companies.</p><p>Those of you who have rattled the bars of socmed griping about the evils of so-called capitalism and market forces and the bourgeoise and whatnot, keep that in mind.</p><p>At the grocery store I frequent, in between the Muzak they have ads for special sales they have, convenient but obscure services they provide, and other trendy things.</p><p>"Trendy things" might just be about holidays. Like, leading up to Memorial Day, they talked about grilling hot dogs and how you'll need buns for them and beer to wash it all down, but they also praised our soldiers for their sacrifices.</p><p>In that same vein, one of the ads is about their cooperation with some outfit called something like the Fluid Foundation. It's apparently about providing gender-neutral clothing so people can express themselves through fashion in a non-binary way.</p><p>Meanwhile most people can describe their casual outfits as something like "jeans and a t-shirt," and the uniform for that grocery store's employees, whether male or female, masculine or feminine, is a blue polo shirt and black or tan pants.</p><p>Sure, there are variations available for civilians as well as employees, but it's all down to personal preferences, see?</p><p>Like it always was.</p><p>This foundation or whatever the clothing company is calling itself isn't doing something innovative or groundbreaking. It's repackaging what you were already getting into something trendy.</p><p>Why? So you'll spend more money on the fad in your rush to get on the bandwagon.</p><p>They were only half right when they said "No service is free; if you're not paying for it, you're the product." There are also movements you're encouraged to buy into but it's like brand loyalty with a moral dimension--or rather, a facade, something just painted on top. The movement itself is the product, but if it reaches its destination, its goal, it will no longer need to exist, and the "movers" will be out of a job. They might say they look forward to that day, but for most humans, big money that easy is too great a temptation.</p><p>So those movements "move," all right; but they don't go anywhere.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-91271186858920147012022-06-08T17:25:00.023-05:002022-06-08T17:25:00.145-05:00Gun controllers aren't seriously interested in public safety. They're interested in public control.<p>This is why they openly admit, in the wake of a mass shooting, that we as a nation need to rise up and pass new rights-surrendering legislation while emotions are still high. </p><p>But when cooler heads finally prevail, they don't persist in their crusade. They don't look around, see the urgency starting to flag, and say "Okay, well, let's at least sit down and take the time to figure out something that works." They give the idea lip service, but for the most part they just give up and pursue tyranny by other means. They tried it with the Brady Bill, and Biden's weepy exhortations notwithstanding, it wasn't effective enough to reinstate when it lapsed; there was no surge in "gun violence" that made everyone go "oh no, letting the Brady ban lapse was a mistake; we have to put these fires out before things get worse than they were before."</p><p>"Gun violence." What a canard. They talk about it, but they want to eliminate guns in the hope that the violence will just stop happening. Meanwhile, we have <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-crime/knife-crime-in-england-and-wales-highest-in-over-nine-years-idUSKCN24I26C" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">knife crime increasing</a> when gun access drops--say what you want about stabbings being less deadly than GSWs, they're more personal and they prove that you haven't solved the violence problem at all--and people turn to even less discriminate means when numerous deaths are their goal, as we saw in Bath, Michigan and Oklahoma City. They talk about gun violence like it's something special, like childhood cancer--like other kinds of violence aren't just harder to commit but are really less offensive, like someone stabbed or beaten to death or thrown off a balcony is just not as morally important. And they act that way.</p><p>It's savvy to recognize you should never let a crisis go to waste. But if all you're doing is skipping from the crest of one crisis to the next, you aren't going to accomplish anything except maybe filling your own coffers. So what use are you to the electorate?</p><p>21 deaths is certainly a tragedy (unless you're making a point like "tragedies are horrific accidents and natural disasters; this was categorically worse;" fair enough). But that same weekend in Chicago, there were something like 46 shootings, six of which proved fatal according to my source at the time. The other forty aside--which it's not fair to dismiss, but for the nonce--six deaths is fewer than twenty-one. But that twenty-one was one event. Chicago, a city with some of the toughest gun laws in the nation, has bad weekends...<i>every weekend.</i> So we're not going to be able to factor out many of the mass shootings people want to say is endemic to America thanks to the Second Amendment.</p><p>Doesn't that tell us something?</p><p>Does the Uvalde shooting prove that "a bad man with a gun is stopped by a good man with a gun" is false? Well, no; not at all. There, the security plan that had been in placed was relaxed due to activities going on at the school, and once the shooting started, police focused on stopping anyone from doing something proactive instead of being proactive themselves.</p><p><a href="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2022/05/27/the_near_mass_shooting_most_media_wont_tell_you_about_571059.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a> is a case where it did work. <a href="https://youtu.be/WqWibXye6YE" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a> is another--I'll tell you now, this one is about an aborted church shooting in Texas, so you remember that "armed churchgoer keeps the body count from being higher than it would have been" is common enough to be a cliche <i>and</i> a good thing no matter how you personally feel about Texans or Christians. And since some people understandably feel weapons in a house of God to be, at best, tacky, <a href="https://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/2013/05/clackamas_town_center_shooting_84.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here is one more</a> going back several years but is interesting because a customer at a shopping mall stopped a shooter without himself having to fire his pistol.<br /></p><p>So we're not in a "you're just doing what socialist apologists do when they say real communism has never been tried" situation. </p><p>We're actually in a "don't trust the government to solve your problems for you because if they choose not to, you have no recourse" situation.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-35815691048293975092022-05-29T09:55:00.003-05:002022-05-29T09:55:35.603-05:00Epoch Times: "Citing Racial Discrimination, Black Leaders Target Roe v. Wade"<p>Article <a href="https://www.theepochtimes.com/citing-racial-discrimination-black-leaders-target-roe-v-wade_4382233.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>, although it may be behind a paywall. It's about the possibly-upcoming Supreme Court case about Planned Parenthood targeting black populations for abortions.</p><p>The comments are a mixed bag. Apparently Planned Parenthood sent its minions out to blame everyone else for "forcing" unwanted children on young people who had already conceived them; another mentioned doing a school paper in the 70s on it and seems to claim that the absence of bad press back then proves Margaret Sanger was on the up and up. Fortunately someone else commented--since a lot of those minions don't waste the time to read the articles they're criticizing once they receive their marching orders--that 70% of PP clinics are in black neighborhoods. Couple that with the fact that "well, abortions are only one option we provide that isn't even a big part of the business no matter how much we promote it" is a deception, and you can see where the arrow of deliberateness is pointing.</p><p>But regardless, I think this is the inevitable result of the thinking that justified what became America's institution of chattel slavery, and even LBJ's own "southern strategy." </p><p>I'm not confusing that with what they accused Nixon of. I'm talking about the stuff that echoes what slaveowners used to tell their discontented slaves: "If you leave the plantation, who will feed you? Where will you find shelter? Who will give you clothing to wear?"</p><p>Is that really so far off from the welfare rhetoric we hear today? </p><p>Of course it's not. And it all stems from the notion that black people are unable to overcome, whether by their own efforts or by help from those bleeding-heart burdened White Men, their victimhood. And no, I won't say "people of color" instead of "black" because American chattel slavery was primarily a phenomenon attached to people of African descent, not Latin America or Asia--even though in the early days, some slaveowners were black and some slaves were white; not to mention slavery that exists outside of or existed before western civilization itself.</p><p>Think about that the next time someone tries to convince you that white hegemony is an end in itself. Accusations of being white on the inside will only get you so far.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-21138499212002922812022-05-25T20:34:00.002-05:002022-05-25T20:34:24.834-05:00Joe Biden disappoints again...<p> ...and I don't mean because his oddly timed speech interrupted a show I was just starting to enjoy watching.</p><p>He seemed oddly morose at first--it would have been more odd if he hadn't shown any sympathy at all, but for a minute there I was wondering if he was going to get around to making a point--until I remembered that he had lost a son, himself; albeit under very different circumstances.</p><p>Then he tore into the gun lobby as if the only problem was that Congress and voters were simply afraid of gun manufacturers.</p><p>The same gun lobby that did <i>not</i> shoot up the school.</p><p>The same gun lobby that did <i>not </i>shoot his grandmother.</p><p>The same gun lobby that did <i>not</i> pass or fail the gun store background check.</p><p>The same gun lobby that did <i>not</i> exhibit many warning signs that went uncaught by red flag laws and federal NICS checks that state regulations cannot circumvent.</p><p>Meanwhile, Joe makes a number of incorrect statements; I no longer give him the benefit of the doubt, even in his upset state, in assuming he made an honest mistake.</p><p>Despite Joe's insistent repetition of the word, the shooter did not have any assault weapons. He had a semiautomatic rifle that looks scary and may have had a pistol. </p><p>The shooter carried in a bag full of ammunition, that at this time has been tentatively determined to have been in 30-round magazines, yet Joe insists that magazine capacity limits are important to legalize. But if he had a whole bag full--that would probably be hundreds of rounds--what difference would it make if the contents of that bag was parceled into, say, ten 30-round clips or fifteen 20-round clips or thirty 10-round clips? I don't think we're in the territory anymore where we can pretend it's worth talking about how small differences in inconvenience to a mass shooter might meaningfully affect the outcome.</p><p>And of course Joe holds little to no discussion about what drives someone like Tuesday's shooter to do something like that. Instead he just wants to ban it.</p><p>Funny: when we talk about banning abortion, the closest they come to agreeing with us is with rhetoric like "we need to make abortion unthinkable before we can make it illegal." How nice: take away all the things that make abortion seem like a worthwhile option before making it an unviable option directly.</p><p>I'm all for fixing things that make abortion appealing, separate from the legal considerations. But why doesn't Joe and the rest of the gun control lobby feel the same way about that? Why do they seem to think not only will gun violence go away but all other violence won't rise as violent people resort to other means?</p><p>I don't think they really fear another Bath, Michigan disaster even though that's what would happen. I think the gun violence crusaders have a tactical opposition to guns but virtually none against violence.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-5774625815424461492022-05-13T19:33:00.005-05:002022-05-25T20:12:22.264-05:00Pro-life centers attacked in wake of SCOTUS abortion decision leak<p>Meanwhile, abortion clinics are "preparing" for the same thing to happen to them if the Supreme Court does end up scuttling <i>Roe</i>. Even though, if the laws change, such acts would no longer be necessary--so to speak--to stop abortion. Even though it hasn't happened since the last century. </p><p><br /></p><p>Well, abortionists and choicers, there goes all your pretense at moral superiority based on an allegedly more consistent life ethic. Were you surprised at this level of violence? We weren't.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-45864079397637615282022-05-06T13:15:00.001-05:002022-05-06T13:15:00.171-05:00So I've been taking in a little bit of news about the war in Ukraine...<p> ...not obsessively, since I can do more by praying and donating to charitable relief agencies than by worrying myself to death giving my custom to the MSM.</p><p>An interesting point gets made about the refugees fleeing to Poland and through other Eastern European countries: </p><p><br /></p><p>They are predominantly women and children.</p><p><br /></p><p>This isn't just a function of able-bodied men being required to stay behind, pick up a rifle, and defend their homeland. It's that men will tend to do this for their families anyway. It's not always about defending their homes literally, but it is about being the first line of defense, of giving one gun to Mom and telling her to go on ahead with the kids, while he stands in the breach with his own gun and promises to catch up later if possible.</p><p>Contrast this with what we've been seeing at our southern border, but moreso what the rest of Europe has been seeing, particularly in Germany and Scandinavia the past few years. </p><p>In those cases? More young single men than anything else. What you would see if you took an army out of uniform and told them to casually infiltrate a target country. The would-be noncombatants are there for political window dressing and colonization.</p><p>Those are not just men looking to take local wives and acculturate because the pickings are slim back home. Those are people looking to export their way of life. Do you want it?</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-3738262029315955322022-04-29T12:55:00.003-05:002022-04-29T12:55:34.337-05:00<p> From Reddit:</p><p>"My son knows what gay is since 3 yrs old and nothing is wrong with him. I rather explain it to him than have a conservative pastor show him with 2 fingers inserted into his bum. Smh"</p><p>
Just conservative pastors, huh? Is that how you determine if they're conservative? Because maybe we're having the wrong conversations.
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"And that is the exact reason they want to stop sex ed for 5 year olds. Because they don't want 5 year olds to learn that they shouldn't be touched in private places. Because that is what sex ed is at that age."
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No. No, it's not. You can explain consent and boundaries--and at that age, there pretty much should be no consent questions outside of basic hygenic and medical needs--without talking about "gay" and suggesting to kids that since they haven't formed strong opinions about sex yet that they're already open to experimentation with things that have strong positive correlation to life-shortening pathologies.
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"My daughter's catholic school had lessons for 5 year olds to know that abuse is wrong and how to report. They called it a 'circle of grace' and that no one should violate it. There are ways to teach sex ed that are religiously conservative. These laws want to keep kids ignorant to make them easier to abuse."
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That first part is nice, but the second part is false. These laws want to keep kids from being open to adults or even other children who are inclined to suggest that exploring the next step beyond the tame stuff they've discussed--it'll be couched in terms like "self-exploration" or "experimentation" or "learning about yourself" or "subverting conservative mores" (this last one being especially pernicious, not because it's a thumb in the eyes of the GOP and Old Fashioned Jesus, but because it's encouraging children to destroy themselves piecemeal in symbolic protest against a phantom bugbear). That's why there are concerns about grooming.
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These people obviously think, due to the lop-sidedness of their news intake, or just want to believe/want you to believe, that "don't say gay" is really the point of legislation that literally calls for age-appropriate education. So I wonder, further, if these people even believe grooming is a real thing.
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Because in my mind, there's not much moral difference between a "conservative" pastor who likes to diddle children and a "progressive" one who likes to tell children that it's okay to diddle themselves or each other or him or get diddled by him.
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If the kids these groomers were feigning to protect were sixteen instead of six, if these kids were their own children being predated by the proverbial frat boys and star quarterbacks at college who came home to check out the "fresh meat," they'd be on the front lines--and rightly so--reminding everybody that date rape is still rape.
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Because that's essentially what it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-41235155691913706022022-04-10T15:21:00.004-05:002022-04-10T15:21:36.595-05:00Recent discussion on local leftist radio: "Those pro-lifers aren't arguing in good faith. 'Hypocrite' is no longer a word sufficient to describe the evils of those sex-trafficking kiddy-porn users."<p> Well, to the extent that's true, I respect their outrage. But even if their contention that most in the pro-life movement were vile criminals who just liked taking questions of life and death into their own hands--projection much?--and not a gross misrepresentation designed to help them fool themselves into moral complacency...</p><p>...<i>it's still not an argument against abortion.</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p>It's not even an argument at all. Just emotionally-charged deflection. A distraction.</p><p>Meanwhile, they keep feigning outrage at being called groomers while all the big names in their own movement keep doing that Jeff Epstein schtick.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-1822400985350621442022-02-20T12:26:00.005-06:002022-02-20T12:26:53.218-06:00"I don't know how you feel about politics," my new coworker said, "but I wish people wouldn't drag it into family gatherings and holiday dinners and such. I don't want to listen to their arguments about how mask mandates impose on their freedom."<p>Well, we've been indulging perpetually adolescent progressives who insisted on bringing Karl Marx and Harvey Milk home for Thanksgiving for decades. By now you should be mature enough to have a conversation with people who have ideas you aren't familiar with.</p><p>We're not afraid anymore. You squandered our goodwill and wasted the tolerance we extended to you when you wouldn't stop talking politics and wouldn't change the subject. This is the bed you made and now is the time for you to sleep in it.</p><p>Better now than later. When your chickens come home to roost, it won't be people looking for a conversation who will be kicking down your door (or welding it shut) that you would have any hope of converting or cowing.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-84194800098010174672021-12-15T00:59:00.003-06:002021-12-15T00:59:30.298-06:00God is attentive to our prayers--and a powerful means of prayer<p> So I've been going through some things in the past year, and I want to share something good God has done in my life.</p><p>My most recent employer has not been good to me. It hasn't been all bad, and I've had some good bosses in the last couple years, but a lot of that is just "meeting basic levels of decency" kind of stuff. When I hired on, it was a smaller privately-owned company (not exactly mom-and-pop, since we had a handful of locations around the country and at least one site each in England and China), so there was still a lot of the corporate attitude of "it's my ship and I'll sail it where I see fit," which gets unhealthy when the executives get rich and can manipulate the numbers well enough to fool a board of directors who aren't particularly savvy to the industry. It got better since then, but there were some holdovers from the previous regime: managers who have been described as comic book villains, and people under them who don't even bother hoping the mangers' malfeasance is addressed even when it becomes a topic for discussion in production meetings.</p><p>One of them--not my boss, but I had to work with one of his mildly disturbed subordinates who retired when covid hit, so suddenly he had to pick up the slack and didn't like it--made me a target. He started floating "evidence" of my own malfeasance to my boss, which I didn't find out until my boss clued me in about six months later that this manager wanted to put me on a "last chance to step up your game before you're fired" program. My boss wasn't having any of that, but he and the other manager both knew that my boss wasn't familiar enough with my work to challenge the accusations straight up to the manager's face. So at my boss's direction, I provided my commentary, which was validated by a third party that knew more about the topic than the rest of us combined. In short, 80% of the accusations were indicative of gross (and inexcusable, considering his tenure) ignorance and flat-out lies. But my boss sat on the matter, letting evidence grow. We were both busy with other truly urgent things, but I knew in the long run if he didn't do something, it wouldn't matter if my real error rate was under 3% in a company where we can barely get 80% of our product out the door correct the first time around; my part of the process was early in the workflow so all kinds of ramifications could be attributed to me.</p><p>Then my boss's boss decided to put me on that "last chance" program, for unrelated reasons. Over the previous decade I had made two or three mistakes that were visible to him; not that I committed them directly, but that I didn't correct them before an external auditor found them. </p><p>My boss recognized that audits are a team effort and failing to catch something <i>which I had provided to his boss and his boss's pet experts for review</i> was not the same thing as creating the problem, but it didn't matter, and since he was in my reporting chain, my boss couldn't blow him off and try to "manage" the problem.</p><p>I saw the hand writing on the wall. I knew this other manager was full of crap and I had a solid defense, but also knowing that it wouldn't matter, and that my boss's boss wouldn't be interested in my successes if they were anything short of perfection, I would still go home feeling angst.</p><p>Well, some time ago my mother was inspired to ask Mary to crush the heads of any demons that were harassing her. She had been telling me about the harassment, not even realizing at first that it was a preternatural phenomenon, and then when it occurred to her to pray that prayer, the relief was immediate.</p><p>You've really got to try it. If something seems wrong, just say something like "Mary, please crush the heads of the evil spirits that are causing worry and confusion right now about <i>X</i>."</p><p>I started doing it for myself. Knowing my defense was solid and I had my boss and another expert in my corner while this manager only had the despair of the other people he'd wronged as his defense, I would ask Mary to crush the heads of the demons causing me anxiety and worry and whatnot.</p><p>Mary came through every time, God bless her. I felt relief in minutes, but usually it only took seconds for complete peace to take over. Every single time.</p><p>So I knew it was just an opportunity for the demons to harass me, steal my joy. I don't know what they had to do with this manager, himself, but I can only pray that he wouldn't cooperate too much with their promptings.</p><p>When I would pray about this situation, I would get a sense of "just wait; something is in the works for you." So I figured I should hunker down and tough it out.</p><p>But the handwriting was on the wall by then, and I could see it wasn't going to get better. The manager could have retired, but for all I know--and he was just the sort to do it--my demise and even the company's was going to be his last project as an employee. So after consulting with some family members, who were unanimous about it, I put in my notice.</p><p>I didn't want to leave my boss in the lurch, since he had a lot of irons in the fire and yet another audit coming up a month later, but I couldn't let this go on forever with him keeping me in a holding pattern while I'm trying to be his wingman. </p><p>So I moved halfway across the country to stay with family while I rethought my life. And the entire time, I had thoughts like "Was this right? Was I supposed to keep waiting for things to change at work? Did I not have enough patience for God to finish setting up the dominoes in my life?" But I never got a sense of "this is the wrong choice." I constantly prayed that I would follow God's will, that He would show me His plans to the extent I should have been able to read them. Nothing seemed wrong.</p><p>But the days staying with family unemployed turned into weeks, and I had a few important epiphanies about my career path, but nothing actionable; and the doubts started to creep back in. So I submitted an online application for a retail position I'd been eyeing up while I was second-guessing myself.</p><p>And all this time, I'm praying that I didn't try to "get ahead" of God, try to take the reins out of His hands to impose my wisdom on His.</p><p>Yesterday, I was offered the job, and I start after Christmas.</p><p>I received two words of knowledge, of sorts, during that day.</p><p>The first: I'd been praying the surrender novena. Even though I had reminders in my phone, I sometimes missed a day, or lost track of which day I was supposed to be on. But yesterday was the ninth day of the novena.</p><p>The second: On my way home from the interview where I go the offer, I stopped at the church I'd been attending to go into the adoration chapel and offer some prayers of thanksgiving. On my way out, I saw on the church's electronic marquee--which rarely or never lists full Bible passages--the full text of Jeremiah 29:11:</p><p>
</p><blockquote>For I know full well the plans I have for you, plans for your welfare and not for your misfortune, plans that will offer you a future filled with hope.</blockquote>
Verses 12 through 14 might also have been in there; I was in too much of a daze to retain most of the text before it changed to the next message, but there was a lot of it, and I did recall the 29:11 citation all the way home. Just for the sake of completeness, here is the rest:<p></p><blockquote> When you call out to me and come forth and pray to me, I will listen to you. When you search for me, you will find me. When you seek me with all your heart, I will allow you to discover me, says the Lord. I will restore your fortunes and gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back to the place from which I sent you into exile.</blockquote><div>God is good. He cares about your life and what's going on in it. I might be attentive or sensitive enough to see the coincidences that really aren't coincidences, but God's not doing this because I'm special--not any more special than you are. </div>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-34987185020621050482021-10-11T04:30:00.010-05:002022-10-23T13:40:47.544-05:00Daily devotional requirements of the 5-fold or Redemptorist scapular, based on each individual one, and hopefully some clarifications.<p>You've probably heard of the brown scapular, if you've stopped here to read this, and may even be aware that there are other scapular devotions out there. </p>
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</p><p>This post is intended to be a guide for those who are indulging their inquisitiveness about the Redeptorist or Five-Fold Scapular--five scapulars in one, including the brown (i.e. Carmelite). When I first heard of it, I could find very little information, so I decided to eventually become the go-to place for...well, the jumping-off point for people who were interested but didn't know everything. I know how frustrating it can be.
</p><p>This isn't supposed to be comprehensive; just an omnibus article on what the 5-fold is and what its obligations are, so devotees can get started. I <i>was</i> hoping to compile something that could pass for close-enough-to-authoritative in a pinch, something that would suffice for a first-blush good-faith effort and assist anyone who wanted to really close the book on the matter and get on with their lives; but even looking just at the records I have access to in English, things are too disjointed.
</p><p>Oh, whom am I kidding? I'd <i>like</i> for this to be comprehensive, exhaustive. I don't know what resources exist only in other languages. But I have tried to document and interpret everything I could find.</p><p>First, the summary of my research. Discussion follows. I invite your insights and knowledge.
</p><p><b>Summary of Requirements </b>(see discussion for details)
</p><div>White Six Our Fathers, six Holy Marys, six Glory Bes<br /><div>Black One Hail Mary, one Hail Holy Queen, and fifteen minutes of meditation on Mary's Dolors</div>
<div>Red Contemplate the Passion</div><div>Brown At least one of the hours of the Divine Office, or certain other prayers; three Hail Marys</div>
<div>Blue Pray for the conversion of recalcitrant sinners, the sick and the dying, and the Chaplet of 10 Evangelical Virtues or the Little Office of the Immaculate Conception
<div>General Cultivate devotion and spiritual support for the scapular's subjects of devotion, the associated religious communities, and their charisms; live chastely per your station in life<br /></div>
<p>I am somewhat of a generalist in life, but have learned that this attitude can lead to not doing anything much in particular at all. When I was preparing for my first communion, I was given a children's missal that came with a Rosary and a brown scapular. I was encouraged to wear it to avoid hell. I wore it once but the plastic corners of the covering irritated my skin, so I resolved to rely on avoiding sin and going to confession, and took it off. That proved to be optimistic. When I learned that there were prayer obligations I couldn't understand, I was further deterred. The family members who gave me the communion kit weren't familiar with scapular enrollment; my grandparents knew to tell me something about it, but perhaps because they were trying to explain something, which my parents weren't even doing, to an eight-year-old, I remained confused.</p>
<p>Many years later, I'm a little less reckless--I'm more reck?--and have discovered the five-fold scapular, which appealed to my cover-all-bases disposition. But having just learned there was more than just the brown scapular out there, I was overwhelmed and confused by the apparent plethora of requirements associated with the devotion of the five-fold scapular. I won't argue against the value of spending more time in prayer, but if they all require things like the Rosary or the Divine Office (and if they require the same thing, can I double count?), am I going to be able to fit it all into my day and still have the stamina to pray for the things I want to pray for, and still have a semblance of a normal life (to whatever degree I ought)? If I'm a lay person or otherwise living and working in the world, am I obligated to get up at 2 or 5 and then 6 in the morning to pray certain hours of the Divine Office, or is there an option to reduce it somewhat or substitute the requirement with something else?</p>
<p>This is not a great question, but I like to think it is an understandable one for someone just starting out.
</p><p>I found different answers everywhere I turned, which also did not help me, so the five-fold scapular I bought stayed on my nightstand. Perhaps it is a sign that in three moves between four states in fifteen years I never lost it. But my life turned a corner a few years ago starting with weekly Eucharistic Adoration, and again with daily prayer of the rosary; and more recently I was drawn to revisit this abandoned devotion. So I set out to set the record straight.
</p><p>This is according to my personal research; I have listed my sources at the end of this article, to the extent that I can identify them (I'm not going down the rabbit hole of trying to link random fifteen year old Internet forum posts or forgotten Google-translated Indonesian blog posts that might but might not turn up in a particularly worded Web search, even if they are unusually perspicacious; most that I have found crib the same generic descriptions and rites of enrollment that are not what I needed, and none referenced the books I used).
</p><p>The five-fold scapular seemed, perhaps erroneously on my part, one of the more complicated private devotions known today and I have struggled to find information describing not just what it's about but how to practice it, so I wanted to compile everything I learned in one place, in the hope that (1) it's not wrong and I can refer back to it later as I learn the practices (2) anyone reading this who knows better can correct me (3) anyone else with the same interest will have a more or less encapsulated document to refer to and be saved a lot of time and confusion.</p><p>I invite all my readers to post corrections or recommendations for better sources in the combox. I'll keep this post updated and will track changes by responding to your comments with my subsequent findings.
</p><p>I have found many sources that are ambiguous or contradictory or had very lax recommendations. One booklet I got online, for example, even said one only had to wear the five-fold devotionally, apparently without enrollment, but other sources discussing just a singular scapular often enumerate several particular practices. Sometimes I would find an instruction that was clearly meant to supersede an older one, but other times it wasn't so clear; if a pope makes a ruling and at another time the head of an order contradicts it, which if either trumps the other? Was a pope merely trying to promote a devotion by publicizing the then-current rules rather than imposing something in perpetuity, and was the order just adapting to historical circumstances? Where I couldn't tell, I wanted to present both sides with concrete evidence so you could see for yourself and hopefully bring back a more educated opinion with which to correct me.
</p><p>For the most part, the discrepancies were small once I understood what I was looking at, but others became more intractable the deeper I went, so I tried to elaborate on the contradictions where I couldn’t resolve them.
</p><p>My general metric was based on the idea that the people with authority over these devotions want them to be widely practiced. In many cases the sources themselves suggest as much: for people who cannot read, which was more common in the earlier days than it was at the Millennium, the instructions may commute requirements for reading Scripture to something like praying seven Our Fathers and seven Hail Marys while kneeling before a crucifix; or if a devotee is in prison, requirements for pilgrimages are waived.
</p><p>On the other hand, we've learned in the modern era that it is not always the case that making something easy to do makes it more popular.
</p><p>My biggest challenge, it turned out, was the conflation of obligations to the scapulars with requirements for attaining certain associated promises from Our Lord or Our Lady, or for gaining various indulgences that once were tied to the scapulars but now are not (at least, not most of the plenaries). This was, after all, my main reason for doing this. Considering the confusion I discuss below regarding the brown scapular, I am still only confident enough to publish this with all these cautions and invitations to correction, so caveat lector.
</p><p>Any priest can perform the investiture, so you don't have to track down five different friars, or even a single Redemptorist priest in particular. Unlike other sacramentals, you don't just have a priest bless the object and then keep it on your person, but there is a particular rite of investment for each of the scapulars. You can look up the rites in many places online, and a copy is often included with the scapular when you buy one.
</p><p>I have tried to identify which scapulars have medals to wear as an alternative, but I'm not sure I've found all the answers. Haffert gives a good capsulized history of the notion. Just for the sake of clarity, though, medals can substitute for the cloth in cases of necessity, like if you work in a job or live in an environment where the wool panels or cords would be destroyed in short order, or if you have a wool allergy; but generally not just for convenience or preference. Each medal should be separately blessed after investiture with the cloth scapular. According to New Advent's entry on scapulars, however, in 1910 the Holy Office permitted the scapulars to be replaced with wearing a single medal, provided the medal has the Sacred Heart on one side, Mary on the other, and has been blessed with all the investitures that go with the particular scapulars. It doesn't comment on necessity versus convenience, but if you want the option, I'd suggest bringing a medal to your investiture and making sure the priest knows to make a Sign of the Cross over it corresponding to each scapular, and you can sort out the details later. You can't exclude the cloth scapular from the rite even if you intend to take up the medal exclusively.
</p><p>Because of the brown scapular’s spectacular legacy, combining it with other scapulars has sometimes been discouraged. Some of my sources suggest it is impious to wear more than one scapular, particularly anything other than the brown; others say the investiture of the brown shouldn’t be watered down by combining it with the enrollment of other scapulars. Magennis has the most discussion on this topic that I have found, but even there it isn’t consistent; on page 6 or so, he quotes a Jesuit who admonishes against trivializing the brown but expressly does not dishonor the other four; fifty pages later, it is claimed that Leo XIII decreed that enrollment with the brown should not take place with the others—but this was only a year after the five-fold was approved by that same pope in the first place. Allegedly this was reiterated in 1913, but that still was over a hundred years ago, so there might be more recent drama to unpack. But again, more than a hundred pages after that, it talks about "cumulative" enrollments and whether the brown ought to be done there or just first and the others accumulated to it afterwards; and all this when faculties to enroll in all five were not universal, so objections to the modern practice might all be moot. I probably won't know until I learn a few more languages and dive deeply into the next tier of sources. I happen to be enrolled in the brown already, so I think if I got enrolled in the other four now, it wouldn’t hurt anybody’s feelings.
</p><p>Something I might like to do in the future is revisit my sources and create a list of all of <i>their</i> cited resources. I mention a few of them in this work, but I could only hypothesize about whether anything not presented by one of the documents I refer to, would be applicable or helpful.
</p><p>What follows is my findings for each scapular. My bibliography of referenced sources is at the end.
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</p><p><b>White, of the Most Holy Trinity</b>: <br />6 Paternosters, 6 Aves, 6 Glorias for the glory of the Trinity and for the liberation of all those in captivity. There is an associated medal. Formal enrollment beyond the investing rite seems to be abrogated. Per Hughes, according to Innocent XI this scapular must be blessed every time a replacement is donned, while for the others the blessing automatically carries to the new garment. Comerford also cites a Summary approved by the Sacred Congregation from 1847 that says the same. However, according to O'Boyle's more recent work, the scapular may be replaced by another scapular or medal after imposition, and his work carries an imprimi potest from the Trinitarian's provincial, so I would think that would take precedent.<br /><br />
<b>Black, of the Seven Sorrows (Servites)</b>: <br />Meditate daily ≥15' on the dolors of Mary (preferably by praying the longer Seven Sorrows Chaplet) for the Servite order and the Church, including at least 1 Ave Maria and 1 Hail Holy Queen. Formal enrollment beyond the investing rite seems to be abrogated.<br /><br />
<b>Red, of the Passion (Lazarists)</b>: <br />None, other than the general requirements, although sometimes it is said for one to contemplate the Passion and pray what's on the scapular ("Holy Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ Save Us" and "Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, protect us").<br />Indulgences were attached to reciting five Paternosters and five Aves while meditating on the Passion, or spending half an hour in mediation on the Passion, or kissing the scapular and praying "We therefore pray Thee, help Thy servants, whom Thou hast redeemed with Thy Precious Blood." Formal enrollment beyond the investing rite seems to be abrogated.<br /><br />
<b>Brown, of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel:</b><br />For being the most widely known scapular, it strikes me as odd that uncovering the practices behind it was the most confusing, if not the most difficult. All the various other sources, as I discuss, were ambiguous or mutually contradictory; maybe this is so because it's more popular than the other four scapulars so there's just more chance for error to crop up. But my request for help from more knowledgeable persons has paid some dividends, and I was able to acquire a book compiled by the North American Provincials of the Carmelite Orders (O.C.D. and O.Carm, for those of you who want to check my work), who put it together specifically for the same purpose that I am writing this, titled <i>The Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel</i>. The book is a little dry but is an excellent primer on the usage and devotion of scapulars as sacramentals, not just the brown one.<br /></p>
<p>For the record, this booklet states that the best historical evidence does not vouch for the authenticity of the Sabbatine Privilege (not to be confused with the Scapular Promise, which can be piously hoped for but does not excuse one to treat the scapular as a get-out-of-hell-free card). <i>The Scapular Book</i> disagrees, citing the Sabbatine Bull of March 3 1322 and naming at least six later popes who endorse it. <i>Scapular Facts</i> also supports it, citing a vision of Mary that John XXII wrote of having, where Mary allegedly made the promise of the Privilege (but not without conditions); as well as a decree by the Inquisition on 20 January 1613 saying it is lawful to preach the Privilege may be obtained if one dies in charity wearing the scapular and recited the Little Office (alas, <i>Facts</i> does not specify which, and I do not know which should be assumed) daily or abstained and fasted on the usual days if one could not read. <i>Mary In Her Scapular Promise </i> by Haffert also goes as far as to name the persons responsible for planting seeds of doubt about the Sabbatine Privilege, making skeptics’ protests sound like little more than “Well, it seems a bit much, doesn’t it?” Either way, these requirements are pretty standard, and if exercised piously, will tend to be good for one's immediate judgment and purgation anyway; and <i>SOLMC</i> and <i>Facts</i> both have nihil obstats and imprimaturs so perhaps arguing about it is moot. But if you're interested in your own research, maybe you can find another source cited by <i>Facts</i>, namely, "The Sabbatine Privilege of the Scapular" by Most Rev. E. P. Magennis, Prior General O. Carm.</p>
<p>Haffert is interesting in this regard. It comes off first as a devotional history, and includes so many anecdotes (some are validated by other sources I used; some of these sources even give relevant names and dates) about unbelievers being convinced to simply put the scapular on to humor someone and soon converting, that it lends some credence to the notion of wearing the scapular being a “silent devotion”—that is, the act of wearing it is a fruitfully meritorious practice all by itself.</p>
<p>Most of the requirements are like the "general requirements" I enumerate below: things like wearing the scapular, frequent reception of the Eucharist, meditation on and imitation of the themes that inspired the scapular, and even meeting for communal prayer. The unique ones come from III.18.7 of the Doctrinal Statement on the Brown Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, which is included in the book from the Carmelite provincials. I quote the paragraph in full: "Members are bound to set aside regularly time to be with God in prayer, frequent participation in the Eucharist, daily recitation of one of the hours of the liturgy"--i.e. the Divine Office--"or of some psalms or the rosary or other equivalent prayers." Further, on page 8, under "Some Practical Rules" in the section <i>A Message From Your Brothers and Sisters in Carmel,</i> it reads in part "The Scapular holds us ... to profess our special devotion to the Blessed Virgin, which should be expressed each day, at least, by saying the Hail Mary three times."
</p><p>Finally: something concrete and unambiguous.</p>
<p>Formal enrollment beyond the investing rite was abrogated by Gregory XVI in 1888.</p>
<p>There is an associated medal, and where the booklet allows for it to replace the scapular, it does not stipulate that the medal be used only out of necessity.</p>
<p>Added bonus: You do not need to be enrolled to wear the scapular and receive some graces, as I said was discussed by Haffert, so if you have some impediment, it's not an all-or-nothing situation--but if you don't follow the obligations, at least be mindful that it’s not a good-luck charm. But maybe those converted skeptics who wore it as “fire insurance” at the insistence of friends or clergy who just happen to be visiting them on their deathbeds--remember the crippled man whose friends lowered him through the ceiling to be healed by Jesus--can teach us a thing or two about what’s really faith and what’s just superstition.</p>
<p>Like many sacramental devotions, there are loads of indulgences you can receive by doing various things like pilgrimages to Carmelite churches or attending mass on the feast of St. Simon Stock and various other Marian feasts; but those aren't hard to find for yourself.</p><p>There is also a Morning Prayer for the brown scapular, as follows; I am not sure what attaches to it.<br /></p><blockquote>O my God, in union with the Immaculate Heart of Mary (here kiss your Brown Scapular), I offer Thee the Precious Blood of Jesus from all the altars throughout the world, joining with it the offering of my every thought, word and action of this day.
O my Jesus, I desire today to gain every indulgence and merit I can and I offer them, together with myself, to Mary Immaculate that she may best apply them to the interests of Thy most Sacred Heart.
Precious Blood of Jesus, save us! Immaculate Heart of Mary, save us! Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us!</blockquote>
<p><b>Blue, of the Immaculate Conception</b>: <br />Pray for the conversion and repentance of recalcitrant sinners, the sick and the dying, and for the souls in purgatory. Pray the Salve Regina (aka "Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of mercy..."). Chaplet of the 10 Evangelical Virtues, or Little Office of the Immaculate Conception (similar to the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary, but the LOIC contains prayers for the hours but there are no propers for the day), or the Divine Mercy Chaplet. I think this is up to the devotee's choice. Most of my research says formal enrollment with the Theatines is still required, but Comerford cites the document <i>Le Chretien eclaire sur la nature et 1'usage des Indulgences</i> by P.A. Maurel, which claims the Theatines themselves gave some communique that they no longer mandate it, either. The book is available online in some countries and in a few libraries, but unfortunately it's in French and I haven't found an English translation to complement the little French I know. Fortunately, though, I did find <a href="https://www.marian.org/confraternity/" target="_blank">this Marianist web site about confraternity enrollment</a> that offers the option of taking on the scapular without formally enrolling, so to the extent that I understand things this question of formal enrollment is answered in the negative.</p><p>
<b>And, what I have been calling the "general requirements":</b></p><p>These are requirements that are common to more or less all the scapulars, and would apply in some form to many another devotions. </p><p>Wear the proper scapular (most have requirements for shape, color, or construction, with a few exceptions; and have stipulations for the medals if they are available), wear them constantly, get enrolled/invested in each one, and cultivate devotion and honor to the various devotions (e.g. develop a habit of meditating on the Passion, the Immaculate Conception, etc. and praying for the associated graces for yourself and those in most need), perform charitable works to the poor and destitute and dying and dead, partake in the sacraments as frequently as a devout Catholic should if possible (but daily mass would be even better), masses on appropriate feast days for further graces and indulgences &c, live chastely according to one's station in life. Mostly stuff you should be doing anyway, if perhaps more mindfully--and pretty much all you need for the red scapular.</p>
<p>One should be inclined to support in prayer the obligations and duties of the various orders or confraternities whence these scapulars come, so their other members can receive some blessing from your membership as you receive blessings by becoming a member. You're not becoming a professed member of anything by taking up the scapular--it's kinda-sorta like becoming a fourth-order member, which is not quite really a thing--but think twice about keeping up with the requirements before you jump in. I don't want you to be deterred, but it is commendable to look at what you can spiritually offer these communities when you take their spiritual memberships on.
</p><p>However, none of these binds under pain of sin. You only fail to receive the associated blessings on the days you do not pray these devotions or wear the scapular, which is usual for a sacramental.</p>
<p>At the start of each day, or when putting the scapular on after removing it (which should only be for bathing, although even then you don't have to--the whole point is to wear it devotionally), pray the following: "Holy Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ, save us. Sacred Hearts of Jesus and Mary, protect us. Holy Trinity, we adore Thee. Holy Mary, ever virgin Mother of God, we venerate Thee and throw ourselves under the mercy of the protection of Your intercession." I don't know if it's a standard requirement but it seems a good practice. If you're going this far, why stop short of a single fourteen second prayer?</p>
<p>Some people experience dye bleeding when they wear it and sweat or shower or go through rain. It's okay to wash it before you wear it if this is a concern; hopefully someone who does their laundry with more care than I can offer some instructions in the comments about how to best extract or set extra dye in a fabric. I shower with mine on, so dye bleeding stopped pretty early; it saves me the trouble of cleaning it separately, and the only thing it does is leave wet spots on the front and back of whatever shirt I put on next.</p>
<p>Several plenary indulgences were previously attached to this devotion, but some time ago they were abrogated. I think the partials are still applicable. The plenaries might qualify as partial now, actually; I read something to that effect once and I think it was a general rule--but again, I invite correction on the matter. Some of the books, particularly Fr. Comerford's, are of a vintage to contain references to indulgences that are gauged by numbers of days, a practice done away with by Paul VI in 1967 with <i>Indulgentiarum Doctrina</i>.</p>
<p>The scapular must be made of wool, with all five parts bound on the same woolen red cords, but could be encased in plastic. It does not have to be worn directly against the skin. The red scapular must be topmost and have the prescribed image and text on it. The white should be bottommost with a red and blue cross.</p>
<p>While one source does say a scapular may be cotton, this wool requirement is the consensus for all these scapulars; indeed, the Sacred Congregation of Indulgences said as much in 1868 to the Procurator General of the Redemptorist Fathers. Lace can be permitted to decorate a scapular but the panels themselves must be woven wool. When asked whether felt (i.e. nonwoven fabric) could suffice, the answer was in the negative; if you’re a Latin scholar, the words used were “pannus” and “panniculus” and “lana subcocta,” so hopefully you can confirm for me and my few readers whether this refers specifically to woven fabric.</p>
<p>I won’t get further into the designs of the individual scapulars—the descriptions you can find anywhere are normative; clear and relatively consistent—except to point out that the brownness of the brown scapular can apparently range between black and tawny</p>
<p>Usually the 5-fold can be found with a small cross and St. Benedict medal on the cords, but apparently they aren't required. The St. Benedict medal normally receives a particular, lengthy (especially in the old rite, which is more potent) exorcism blessing, but once invested in the 5-fold, the scapular's blessing follows you rather than the object so when you replace it after it gets worn out you don't have to have it reblessed (but you should still dispose of it as a holy object that is fit for retirement), so I don't know how it works. Maybe transfer the cross and medal to the new scapular.
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</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Sources</b></p><ol style="text-align: left;">
<li><i>The Five Scapulars</i>, by Fr. Raymond J Miller, C.Ss.R. Refuge of Sinners Publishing 2014</li>
<li><i>The Fivefold Scapular</i>, Carmel books, author and date unknown</li>
<li><i>The Book of Holy Indulgences</i>, Rev. Michael Comerford, James Duffy and Sons 1876 via Palala Press*</li>
<li><i>The Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel: Catechesis and Ritual,</i> prepared under the direction of the North American Provincials of the Carmelite Orders.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.catholictradition.org/Mary/blue-scapular.htm" rel="" target="_blank">The Blue Scapular</a></li>
<li><a href="https://images.marianweb.net/archives/pdfs/misc/en/The_Blue_Scapular_Prayer_Book.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Blue Scapular Prayer Book</a><br /></li>
<li><i>The Devotion of the Holy Rosary and the Five Scapulars,</i> Fr. Michael Mueller C.Ss.R. Loreto Publications 2004 </li>
<li><i>The White-Red-Blue Scapular,</i> Patrick A. O'Boyle, Archconfraternity of the Most Holy Trinity, 1954</li>
<li><i>The Scapular Book</i> and <i>The Golden Book of the Confraternities</i>, John Hughes</li>
<li><a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13508b.htm" target="_blank">Scapulars, at New Advent</a></li>
<li><i>Scapular Facts</i> by Rev. Albert H. Dolan, O. Carm. Refuge of Sinners Publishing 2015</li>
<li><i>The Scapular of Carmel,</i>> by Most Rev. E.K. Lynch, O. Carm. AMI Press 1996 ed., Washington, NJ</li>
<li><i>Our Lady’s Garment, the Brown Scapular</i>, at <a href="http://www.fatima.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Fatima Center</a></li>
<li><i>Mary In Her Scapular Promise</i>, John Mathias Haffert, Refuge of Sinners Publishing, Pekin, IN 2nd ed. 2019</li>
<li><i>The Scapular Book</i>, ed. Brother Hermengild TOSF, issued 8 April 2015, author and publisher unknown</li>
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*The indulgences are almost certainly reduced since this book was published, but I doubt the devotional requirements were changed</div></div></div>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com26tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-21541147101160088472021-09-26T19:49:00.000-05:002021-09-26T19:49:18.019-05:00Juxtaposed for your consideration...<p> The Saint Michael prayer was composed by Pope Leo XIII after a private mass, apparently on a day in October in the 1880s. He apparently went into a stupor of some sorts and was thought by some people around him to have died, but after several minutes he came to, exasperated at a vision he saw.</p><p>In his vision reminiscent of the story of Job--some accounts describe it more like a locution--the devil boasted to Jesus that he could destroy the Church if given a century of time and more power to afflict it, which Jesus then permitted. </p><blockquote><i>Revelation 20:
<br /> 1 Then I saw an angel come down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the abyss* and a heavy chain.
<br /> 2 He seized the dragon, the ancient serpent, which is the Devil or Satan, and tied it up for a thousand years
<br /> 3 and threw it into the abyss, which he locked over it and sealed, so that it could no longer lead the nations astray until the thousand years are completed. After this, it is to be released for a short time.
<br /> 7 When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison.
<br /> 8 He will go out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea.</i></blockquote><p>Apparently, the devil chose the 20th Century as the time in which his powers would be less constrained.</p><p>I am neither scholar nor prophet, but is what we're experiencing now, not the fruits of evils that were planted in the 20th Century?</p><i>
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<p></p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-9287959484491486572021-08-12T18:25:00.000-05:002021-08-12T18:25:03.895-05:00I'm getting tired of being accused of rigidity and divisiveness--even if it's not a simple case of projection<p>Any Latin scholars passing through, I invite your corrections, for I looked this up on some Internet-based robo-translator I'd never heard of before. </p><p>I'd like to get this phrase into more widespread use:</p><p>
“Si non esset, non tibi." </p><p>I call it the“If it weren’t for you” fallacy. It's the solipsistic idea that everything would be fine if everybody just did what I wanted, mostly because what I want is what matters, problems only arise from the uppitiness of other people, and not because I honestly analyzed my positions and objectively determined they were closest to the truth.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-21487346554521045352021-08-03T19:16:00.001-05:002021-08-03T19:16:00.252-05:00So one of the thing "anti-racists" claim is that punctuality and scheduling are racist--that is, that they are too white a concept.<p> I'm sorry, but this is going on my list of "things that are actually dumb that I won't sugar-coat."</p><p>In their zeal to oppose themselves to western civilization, they have completely failed to acknowledge the diversity of Europe. </p><p>Have they never attempted to make a social appointment in Latin Europe? I mean the Mediterranean-adjacent states, not some transplanted hispanic-american fiction you are trying to imagine.</p><p>If that's the path you're choosing, good luck. I'm not even going to speculate about other, dumber stuff that fits your paradigm; you'll just blame me for it when it blows up in your face after you figure it out for yourself.</p><p><br /></p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-51773412523571882562021-07-23T18:29:00.001-05:002021-07-23T18:29:00.201-05:00“DNC is more pro life. I side with them because they want to end the causes of poverty that result specifically in abortion.”If you’re right, then fine. There’s room for people of good will to reach that conclusion on their efforts and methods as far as this goes. <p>
However. </p><p>
That’s not an entirely fair depiction. </p><p>
Ending poverty by other means can achieve this—fine. That’s the stuff they accuse us of not doing, which would be fair if it were true. But them picking up the ball when we drop it isn’t all they do--and dropping the ball isn't all we do, either. </p><p>
The two big things they also do that make it very hard to justify this are (1) they promote social behaviors and programs that promote abortion, such as teaching utilitarian and Malthusian philosophies about humanity that at the very least but usually far more don’t rule out abortion as a means to an end (2) promote abortion itself as a necessary and inherent good in the life of a civilized, defeminized, and fully actualized woman. </p><p>
That makes it a lot harder to justify the “on the balance they’re still better than the alternatives” rationale. </p><p>Especially when the jury is still out. Sure, in the short run, local governments providing contraception to teenagers behind their parents' backs can reduce the demand for abortion--and I'll be thrilled to see how Planned Parenthood reacts when the state bogarts their business--at least, it can <i>today</i>, but (1) there are medical side effects to any form of contraception that have to be factored in (2) there are sociological effects that have to be factored in, which are usually cited as evidence for bans on contraception (3) there are also sociological effects from changing laws to permit going behind parents' backs that need to be factored in (4) there is such a thing as risk compensation, and with pregnancies often taking several weeks to discover and months to run to completion, changes in behavior are bound to happen. Do the powers that be consider any of these things, or do they just wave their hands and say "it's the responsible thing?"</p><p>
Never mind that to hear them talk lately the only problems of concern in the world are racism and sexism in the US, which kind of neuters any seamless garment arguments about life issues. These are certainly not good things, but they are not the only pressing matters and I don’t want my leaders to ignore everything else or see everything as just variations on those two evils.</p><p>And if you're a Christian, you're doubly burdened because Jesus Himself said the poor we would always have with us, so while we shouldn't give up trying, we should be a lot more modest about our goals; especially if we end up not feeding the hungry and not clothing the naked and not housing the stranger because we don't want to take our eyes off the prize to see the opportunities all around us to do some actual good.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-19697662721821633922021-07-16T19:43:00.001-05:002021-07-16T19:43:08.280-05:00On the Custodians of Tradition<p> I know the conspiracy theories, I know the charitable theories, I recognize the sliver of truth within the propaganda....</p><p>I started going to the Latin Mass a few years ago just to experience an aspect of our heritage that I had only read about. Eucharistic adoration was another that I was drawn to. Also, the fact that they had frequent times for confession was appealing, so I wouldn't have to worry about going to my own pastor and being too embarrassed to be forthcoming in front of someone I knew.</p><p>I went on occasion, but after a while I went to the Tridentine liturgy almost exclusively. There are things I like about the Novus Ordo on paper, but--and I recognize that this is an emotional argument but I don't want to get lost in the weeds here--when I'm at the Latin mass, those things just don't hold up.</p><p>So I'm not thrilled about what was promulgated Friday. But:</p><p>The pope is still the pope. His policy is distasteful, and might not even be honest, but he's the pope and this is the Church. There's really no where else to go. You can get farther away by joining one of the Eastern rites, and still get a beautiful and reverent liturgy, but Rome is still there.</p><p>And eventually Francis will pass, and then as now, Christ will guide His Church through a history that holds no secrets from God.</p><p>I don't know what we'll have to adapt to, resist, or contend with. But keep your rosaries in your hands and your knees behind Roman Catholic pews; we need the grace and faithfulness more than ever.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18549873.post-88549714807508065462021-07-11T18:22:00.118-05:002021-07-11T18:22:00.216-05:00Not the way to do ecumenism...two perspectivesSo several days ago I was watching a Trent Horn video where he responded to a Seventh Day Adventist allegedly converted from Catholicism, who was posting a number of reasons why he left the RCC.<p>
Some of the SDA's reasons were better than others, but none was bulletproof. It might edify other Adventists or confuse poorly catechized Catholics, but wouldn't convince anyone who wasn't already on Team Ellen White.</p><p>To be fair, it was probably a half hour video, and you can only cover so much ground, but it was a <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CriticalResearchFailure" target="_blank">critical research failure</a> spoiling oversight of simple details; like, despite looking up instructions on a Catholic web site, reporting that the Rosary consists of "at least 33 Hail Marys"--okay, 53 is technically at least 33, but <i>huh?</i>--and basing the old canard that Catholics removed the prohibition of images in worship from the Ten Commandments on the strategy of <i>directing the attention of the viewer to the paragraph below the one with that text</i>. I guess the line between incompetence and malice is malfeasance.</p><p>At the risk of sounding condescending, I got a sense more that these are the things he was told as a child when he asked his parents why they started going to a new building on Saturday nights, and stopped taking him to the pretty church on Sunday mornings.</p><p>
Most of the other reasons relied on assuming up front that SDA doctrines were true, because there's no way a mere mortal is going to have access to the supernatural knowledge that sacraments are inefficacious or Mary is dead/in soul sleep. Not without some divine intervention that would have been his #1 reason, which it wasn't.</p><p>Even though half an hour is kind of long for even a top ten list, I would have expected a little more depth to his positive arguments. But they were all on this level.</p><p>
Perhaps the most interesting was his claim that that Bible was clear that Mary was dead. In fact, the Bible is completely silent on Mary's demise. He can only infer her death by looking at extrabiblical data on life exptectancies and taking as axiomatic that Mary did not receive any exceptional treatment like Elijah.</p><p>Sure, it's a reasonable inference or assumption for a non-Catholic, but the Bible doesn't actually say so. This ended up being a common theme in my overall experience.</p><p>
I got involved in the comments section, just meaning to make a couple points, but got dragged into it with someone who might have been a troll, and I remembered why I drifted away from religion arguments online in the first place, and have been quiet lately after I got sick of politics as well. God bless 'im, but I don't have Trent Horn's charitable patience.</p><p>
Talking with one of the commenters was...not much like talking to another person. He expressed some satisfaction that I could cite a chapter here or a verse there, but his interest seemed to lie in proving Mary was dead in her grave.</p><p>
By way of example, he tried to demonstrate that Moses was not. And a few general references to the resurrection and general judgment at the end of the world--none of which speak to exceptions that both of us make. Him, Elijah and Moses; me, Elijah and Mary--but maybe also Moses; I know that I don't know and that the Scriptures aren't explicit.</p><p>
The discussion was difficult. He didn't seem interested in Trent's defense of Mary or the communion of saints, and seemed to think I would find it novel to consider praying directly to Jesus. I said I do both, and she does the same anyway, so what does it hurt? He told me to prove from scripture that Mary prays to Jesus in heaven.</p><p>
I said pretty much everyone does. I think if I'd suggested that ligaments hold bones together, he'd ask me to provide sources. He seemed to think that this was a linchpin in my argument--in the whole edifice of Mariology--because he kept coming back and pretending I had repeated this claim in new words instead of talking about other things, like why his Biblical claims were spurious.</p><p>I think I made a misstep here. I'm used to debating more mainline protestants, who mostly believe that Christians go to heaven right after death, and I think I got stuck between working on that basis and working on his belief in soul sleep--which in my defense Trent Horn had gone over in his video.</p><p><br /></p><p>
When I asked how he could know Mary was dead, he quoted something about the resurrection at the final judgment. That's nice, but it doesn't discuss Mary; he is relying again on extrabiblical sources that he hasn't disclosed in order to assume that Mary is not a special case.</p>His response: "Such as?" <p>
Dude: <i>You're</i> the one making the claim that the Bible says Mary died. I'm not the one here who has to show the passage that states it, or the supporting extrabiblical documents that argue for such an interpretation of some Scripture. That Bible passage about the final judgment does not name or infer Mary, and by this point in the argument, we'd already visited the precedent of Elijah and Moses, so there's no way to fall back on "Well, everyone." In retrospect, I think he was trying to dodge this and make me or his audience think that I'm being coy about extrabiblical sources to prove something about <i>Mary</i>, and I need to come out and 'fess up more than he needs to participate in dialog as if we were both adults.</p><p>
I wasn't buying Moses, though. I pointed out that Jude 1:9 is about the handling of his body, not the status of his soul. But he insisted that was sufficient proof.</p><p>
Man, no it's not. It's not proof of anything. It's not even a reference to the Old Testament. It's to a lost book called the Assumption of Moses or the Testament of Moses, and we only know about it from Jewish tradition and a Patristic reference to this book as a possible source for Jude's comment. </p><p>
I pointed out two more things to him: (1) He's made enough maneuvering room in his "Bible-based" doctrines for the same thing the Catholics do, but he only allows it to be applied to Moses and not Mary, based on Scripture that doesn't spell out that she died or that he was raised (2) He's not even quoting Bible verses anymore.</p><p>
"Well," he demurred--I'm paraphrasing, sorry--"I usually don't get much traction quoting Scripture to Catholics, since they don't know it."</p><p>
Well, I kept up with you when you started out doing that, and you were nice enough to admit it. So why stop when I beat him to the punch on citing one of the most cryptic verses in the New Testament? </p><p>
I'd had about enough at this point. If I said something he thought I'd buckle under trying to defend, he'd attack, but if not, he'd go back to insisting I prove from Scripture that Mary prays to Jesus in heaven, as if all the intervening comments never happened.</p><p>
That is confusing enough just to read. Maybe he thought he was keeping me on my back foot by never giving a straight answer when he could press me to prove something that had been addressed in Trent's video. Maybe he didn't like it--Trent's own video, including the clips from the original, was a little more than an hour, so he didn't have room for extensive dissertations either--but even if Moses was assumed into heaven the way we believe Mary was, he hadn't given any evidence that actually pointed to it--and wouldn't when asked, except to insist that what he didn't admit were Ellen White's mystical interpretations were both interpretations and correct. It's not like I really know Moses is normal-dead, but this is leaning way over the line into "Shakespeare indicated the door was blue to symbolize the sorrow and vastness of..." territory.</p>
<p>There’s a difference between claiming a verse or passage means something, and explaining how it does. If he had attempted the latter without merely gainsaying me and moving on like my concerns were both put to bed and not worth discussing, I might have continued under the presumption that he was either honest or competent enough to be worth dialoging with.</p><p>Maybe he was assuming some interpretations and then assuming I'd just pick them up. But whether it's true or not, whether it's intended or not, <i>this stuff is not what the Bible literally says.</i></p><p>And maybe he was trying to do the same kind of thing I was trying to do: me, forcing him to admit that his creative interpretations and smuggling in assumed conclusions is the same thing he accuses Catholics of doing; and he, forcing me to admit that if Mary's not in heaven because she's in soul sleep then she naturally wouldn't be praying for us.</p>
<p>Since I brought it up, here's Jude 9: "But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said 'The Lord rebuke you.'" That's not even about Moses; it's incidental. It's a specific example showcasing Michael's humility. You can compare <a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jude%209" target="_blank">other translations</a> if you want to see for yourself. Spirits fighting over a holy man's body does seem like an unusual situation--in fact, it's so rare I don't think there are any other cases we can make a comparison to or draw expectations from--but from that and the fact that the text doesn't rule it out only leaves us with speculations. So maybe it's true. But we can't honestly say the Bible sews it up.</p><p>
So I told him I was done. His response? "But I asked you one thing, to prove Mary prays to Jesus in heaven. Now you bow out?" Yeah, because you're rude and incoherent. You haven't responded directly to anything I've claimed except to bogart Mary's privileges for Moses. But a nonanswer isn't really an answer.</p>
<p>I suggested if he was interested in honest discussion to pay more attention to the channel and the professionals in the combox. But no, now he reveals that he had been a Catholic for thirty years so he was already well familiar with all our doctrines that just don't make sense. </p><p>If he really were, he'd already be familiar with the arguments for the Assumption, and that we don't put Scripture exclusively above Tradition. Instead, he sounds more like the guy Trent Horn deconstructed.</p><p>Yeah, I ended up effectively sidestepping his question. But he should have already known the answer, and my point was to show him that he actually uses a similar hermeneutic to support his own beliefs, so either we both might be right and we have to look in other directions or we're both wrong. After all, even if you take a strong view of Biblical self-sufficiency, that's still not the same thing as mandatory Biblical sufficiency.</p>
<p>Maybe it would have helped if I’d more directly addressed his demand for a passage. Like: “Why do I have to cite a prooftext?” As I said, if he really was an ex-Catholic who left because he plumbed too deeply and found problems, he’d know and understand what I was getting at without me having to point it out; but his double standard, I suspect, would have been too overt to elide.</p>
<p>I mean, man, come on: You come onto a Catholic channel for a video that discusses soul sleep as a widely recognized error--and it's a public space, I'm not saying you're not welcome--and pick fights with everyone who will listen to you, tuning out when they don't stay on your script, to prove to you that Mary is asleep-dead but Moses isn't...</p><p>...and the problem is that I, just I, am not telling you what you want to hear?</p><p>I think you're already getting what you want. </p><p>
If I talk to him again, I'll apologize on behalf of his catechists for failing him as profoundly as those who failed the guy who did the original video, who failed him so badly he couldn't even count to 53.</p><p>
Because it's that or he's a character out of a Chick Tract.</p>Ed Piehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04493238448820616189noreply@blogger.com0